EVP and UFOlogy — MP3 Audio: Arthur Shuttlewood 1968 Interview


In August 2006 I learned Wendy Connors had released a new Faded Disc audio archive CD — this one featuring an audio retrospective of British and Australian UFOlogy cases.  The recordings on the CD are dated between 1946 and 1989.  The "UFOs Across The Ponds" MP3 CD consists of 51 tracks with a total running time of 32:25:30.  There are four Arthur Shuttlewood recordings described on the Track Listing:

28 Arthur Shuttlewood Interview.  Interviewer unknown at this time.  1968.  35:02

32 Arthur Shuttlewood lectures on the Continuing Story of the Warminster Thing and his involvement in the investigation.  October 5, 1968.  57:06

34 Arthur Shuttlewood lectures on UFOs and Modern Thought.  September 13, 1969.  49:40

38 Arthur Shuttlewood lectures on the 1964 Warminster case.  February 28, 1970.  01:04:35

You may listen to the 1968 interview by clicking on the first listing above.  Shuttlewood would go on to have many more unusual experiences as recounted in his books.  Other Warminster tracks on the "UFOs Across The Ponds" MP3 CD are two 1965 news reports and "witness statements" from the 1966 BBC documentary "Pie in the Sky."

Since I first read Shuttlewood's books, I've recognized that there are some aspects of the Warminster UFOlogist's life that are similar to my own.  The paranormal phenomena that I witnessed while investigating a so-called 'talking poltergeist' haunting in 1995 made possible an expanded awareness of life and spirituality that I felt compelled to chronicle in a journalistic manner.  Some of my most astonishing experiences involved listening to what is often called Electronic Voice Phenomena ('EVP') while transcribing microcassette interviews, although I hadn't heard of this acronym at the time I published the case study Testament in 1997.  In my book I had simply described the "unattributed sounds and spirit messages audible on the tapes."  I also began noticing the phenomenon where people while conversing unconsciously say the word "no" and, less significantly, "you know."  EVP messages and instances of unconscious utterances by people are two manifestations showing that individual beings are mentally connected with what might be expressed as an organizing 'Universal Consciousness,' 'Spiritual Force'/'Oneness,' 'Superconsciousness' or 'Shared Subconscious Mind.'  Other evidence of this aspect of the human condition is mediumship and other forms of psychic phenomena, including automatic writing.

In the following excerpts from the 1968 Arthur Shuttlewood interview (Track 28), apparent EVP messages are indicated by capital letters within parentheses similar to the transcripts in my book.  Readers unfamiliar with EVP will be surprised to learn that EVP communication is commonly noticeable on radio broadcasts and any unedited program recordings, including television broadcasts.  As you can see in these transcript excerpts, some EVP instances are more distinct than others when one attempts to differentiate them.  Whenever I listen to radio interviews, I routinely notice EVP messages and 'unconscious utterances' although most listeners seem oblivious to this phenomena, assuming instances of EVP to be attributable to radio show hosts or guests.  There are also many unattributed sounds that are noticeable on this 1968 Shuttlewood recording.

At 5:10 of track:
Arthur Shuttlewood: ("BUT")  I was convinced on September the twenty-eight, which is a Tuesday, at 3:42 p.m.  I'll never forget.  When I saw this cigar for myself and I trained the camera on it — the movie camera, I could feel a needling sensation up my left arm, left side of my face.  My eye watered for several weeks afterwards.  It was very embarrassing.  And I could feel that this 'Thing' had power that it was pushing out.  Whether it thought that I was manning a machine gun or was trying to ("NO") fire away at it or whether it disliked or didn't want to be photographed I wouldn't like to say but I think really — there was certainly no radioactivity there.  I checked up with the doctor.  There was no — nothing radioactive or harmful about the ray that was being pushed out.  But I think it was pushed out — really and truly, I think that the main reason was 'this is a disbelieving sort of chap.  Now we've got to convince him personally.'  And they did.  There's no doubt about it.


7:58:
AS: These calls — harking back to these calls, now these — if — if they were not hoaxes could be the most relevant and the most revelationary things that've ever happened because I was contacted on the phone by three people.  Now (or "NOW") they rang from a local phone box.  They even gave me the kiosk number.  There was no doubting the fact that they were there because I mean the whole family here ("NO" or "KNOW") would know that they were here.  And I had Peter Earle of the News of the World down who was following up a Thing story at the time ("WHEN") the first call broke.  And I handed the receiver to him and he listened.  Now (or "NOW"), as you know, if you get a local call you get the four pennies dropping.  ("BUT THERE  WAS")  There were no pennies dropping at all and all that I could hear was a distinct crackling noise as of electricity and this accompanied the voices always that came through to me.  There were three people and they claimed that they came from a planet or a cantel, as they termed it, called Aenstria . . .


11:28:
AS: She was going to fly to the phone — to — to her father's phone which is in another house down the road.  ("BUT")  As soon as I gave a signal — I'd said nothing at all about this phone call — the voice on the other end, which I think was Caellsan at that time, warned me immediately — he could read my mind.  I have no doubt about that.  He monitored my  thoughts because he said immediately, "Please do not try and apprehend us.  It will be the worst for you and we have no — we have nothing but love and compassion for your people.  ("BUT")  We are here for specific purposes . . ."

Shuttlewood mentioned that one of Caellsan's following comments was, "We will have to harm you if you do" — seemingly a poor choice of words at the moment considering what Shuttlewood has written about the Aenstrians.

12:10:
AS: Several other things were — were beyond the pale of sheer coincidence because, for example, on the first night that they rang.  It was a Saturday, September the tenth.  On September the ninth — or was it eleventh?  I'm not really certain.  ("BUT ANYWAY")  After our story came out in the Mirror in September together with young Faulkner's picture, which is a genuine picture of the Thing.  On the next day in the Mirror a false picture appeared — a hoax picture that had been made up.  And this was on that particular night that Caellsan rang through and, of course (or "OF COURSE"), I immediately said sort of stringing him along and laughing, you know — in a laughing fashion ("I SAID WELL") "What did you think of our picture in the Mirror yesterday?"  And he said, "By our standards very poor — palpably poor.  By your standards good.  It is of our machine."  And or "one of our craft — one of our spacecraft."  And then I said, "Well what did you think of the picture in the Mirror today?"  And this was two days before it was acknowledged to be a hoax picture.  And (or "AND") immediately he said, "It is too serious to laugh at really although we have a sense of humor as you have — as you people have.  But (or "BUT") it is a fake fake fake.  A great shame."  And that was two days before.  Well (or "WELL") a lot of things of that nature crept into the conversations.  An (or "AN") — and it was as though not only could he monitor my thoughts — I couldn't monitor his but he could certainly follow my train of thought.  I — I ne[ver] — very, very rarely did I have to ask them — any of them — a question.  As soon as the question was in my mind and being framed, they'd answer immediately . . .


17:48:
AS: . . . There's a material or a physical science.  There's a spiritual science.  There's a social science.  Now (or "NOW") for the past half century — this is what I've been told by all of these three people at different times — our material and physical science, which is gratifying our concrete needs as materialism — motor cars, television sets, what have you, transport even — we (or "WE") the superstructure of that science is dwarfing the other two sciences, which are spiritual and social.  We're losing sight of spiritual and social sciences, which are creative — we don't know how to use their creations so that the super structure of the material science is in danger now of collapsing on top of the other two.  And if that happens well we're finished as a world and they know that so I think that there's a little — something here that's a little bit religious.  They're here they tell me — they're not the only planet engaged in this operation.  But it is an operation and apparently it's by divine guidance that they're here.


19:29:
AS: . . . So far as I'm concerned — and I'm convinced now, having watched them every night for the past nine months — these things.  On clear nights they've been — ever since February the twenty-fifth on Cradle Hill we've seen them above us hovering as though saying, 'Well here we are, you know?' ( "AND")  I've no doubt in my mind now that these are interplanetary or extraterrestrial or whatever you want to call them.  They’re certainly not of this Earth.  So that therefore looking back ("ON") — I'm convinced now that the calls I received were genuine.  Particularly when I've witnessed landings myself up on that hill.  That — that sounds incredible but there are certain things I couldn't tell people at the moment.  They would just laugh.  But I think my book will pave the way.


26:20:
AS: There — there are several things I have learned.  And that is reincarnation is a — is definite.  Whether — whether religious people like to accept it or not.  They tell me that reincarnation is a definite fact.  So that if you read your Bible it still doesn't conflict — that you die and you're born again.  You reawaken.  Your soul lives on.  And that is the essence of it.  But it doesn't mean to say that you go into another — into another sphere — into a heaven.  ("YOU")  You're born here.  Where you're born originally — you keep being reincarnated until you've reached the perfection required — before you go and join these people in another planet.


27:36:
AS: . . . You asked me about other planets.  It's factual according to these people that Mars and Venus — I know for a fact those two are peopled.  Absolutely like us.  Absolutely as we are.  Except that the people with whom I dealt are even more advanced.  They're even more advanced — I'm convinced of that because we've had a number of cases here of people having seen someone ("WHO") and talked to them.  And then the person has disappeared.  So I think that these people have not only gained an extra sense — you know, they have six senses as opposed to our five.  They have an extra dimension.  They've mastered the fourth dimension.  They can alter, if you like, the — the frequency, you know of their atomic particles.  We're all made up of atomic particles, after all.  They can lower and raise at will the frequencies of the atomic particles ("OF WHICH") flesh is composed — flesh and bone.  And I think that they can render themselves invisible ("TO") to sight.

When I decided to provide an additional link to examples of EVP heard during a recent radio interview segment, I glanced at some of the topics of the NPR show "Fresh Air" hosted by Terry Gross.  I found two interviews in particular where there were noticeable many EVP instances of the word "No."  The first was The Anatomy of Violence: The Biological Roots of Crime featuring author Adrian Raine in an interview given the title "Criminologist Believes Violent Behavior Is Biological"EVP instances of the word "NO" can be heard at: 4:04, 4:06, 4:30, 5:39, 6:07, 6:28, 7:26, 12:10, 13:51, 15:58, 17:56, 21:12, 21:18, 23:34, 23:47, 26:20, 32:35, 33:00, 36:29, 36:44, 37:33.  Another example of EVP is the word "FROM" heard at 10:05.  The second interview was the May 21 segment with director Steven Soderbergh: "Soderbergh's Liberace, 'Behind The Candelabra".  EVP instances of the word "NO" can be heard at: 7:29, 9:28, 9:50, 9:58, 10:18, 12:35, 12:44, 15:48, 17:24, 17:34, 17:40, 18:15, 18:38, 19:00, 19:07, 19:12, 19:34, 27:55, 27:57, 28:44, 29:03, 29:25, 29:27, 33:41, 33:51, 34:43, 35:56, 36:21, 36:59, 37:02, 39:56.

A previous blog article is "In Appreciation of Wendy Connors and Her Faded Discs Archive".  Wendy's retirement announcement may be read at this UFOUpDatesList. com page and a Brief Biography may be read at this National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP) International Who's Who in Ufology page.

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